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Working with Jon, Tribute delivered at UCLA, October 30, 1998 (RFC2441) Disclosure Number: IPCOM000003019D
Original Publication Date: 1998-Nov-01
Included in the Prior Art Database: 2019-Feb-11
Document File: 6 page(s) / 9K

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D. Cohen: AUTHOR

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10.17487/RFC2441: DOI


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Network Working Group D. Cohen Request for Comments: 2441 Myricom Category: Informational November 1998

Working with Jon Tribute delivered at UCLA, October 30, 1998

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In 1973, after doing interactive flight simulation over the ARPAnet, I joined ISI and applied that experience to interactive speech over the ARPAnet.

The communication requirements for realtime speech were unique (more like UDP than like TCP). This got me involved in the Network Working Group, and I started another project at ISI called "Internet Concepts".

In 1977 Steve Crocker, who was then at ISI, told me that Jon was willing to join us, and that Jon will be a great addition to my Internet Concepts project. Steve was right on both accounts.

Jon and I worked together from 1977 until 1993 when I left ISI. According to ISI’s management Jon worked for me for several years, and I worked for him for several years. In reality we never worked for each other (nor for ISI), we always worked together, to advance the technology that we believed in. Over most of those 16 years we had our offices together, and always worked with each other, even when we worked on totally different projects.

Jon was always most pleasant to work with. He was most caring both about the project, and about the individuals on the team. He was always full of great intentions and humor. Jon was always ready for mischiefs, one way or another. He was always game to hack something.

Cohen Informational [Page 1]

RFC 2441 Working with Jon November 1998

When I worked on the MOSIS project, in 1980, users submitted their VLSI designs to us by e-mail. For several defense contractors, getting access to the ARPAnet was too complex. We suggested that they would use a commercial e-mail service, like TELEmail, instead.

Then we had the problem of getting all the e-mail systems to interoperate, since none of them was willing to interoperate with the others. Jon and I solved this problem during one long night of hacking. This hack later became the mail-tunnel that provided the service known as "InterMail", for passing e-mail between various non-cooperating systems, including systems like MCImail and IEEE’s COMPmail.

I’m sure that Jon was so enthusiastic to work with me on it for two reasons:

* Such interoperability among heterogeneous e-mail systems was our religion, with no tolerance for separatism;

* We definitely were not supposed to do it.

Jon hated bureaucracy and silly rules, as Cary Thomas so well described. Too bad that we lived in an environment with so many rules.

We started Los-Nettos without lawyers and without formal contracts. Handshakes were good enough. At that time several other regional networks started around the country. Most of them were interested in expa...