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Working with Jon, Tribute delivered at UCLA, October 30, 1998 (RFC2441) Disclosure Number: IPCOM000003019D
Original Publication Date: 1998-Nov-01
Included in the Prior Art Database: 2000-Sep-13
Document File: 5 page(s) / 11K

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D. Cohen: AUTHOR


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Network Working Group D. Cohen

Request for Comments: 2441 Myricom

Category: Informational November 1998

Working with Jon

Tribute delivered at UCLA, October 30, 1998

Status of this Memo

This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does

not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this

memo is unlimited.

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Copyright (C) The Internet Society (1998). All Rights Reserved.


In 1973, after doing interactive flight simulation over the ARPAnet,

I joined ISI and applied that experience to interactive speech over

the ARPAnet.

The communication requirements for realtime speech were unique (more

like UDP than like TCP). This got me involved in the Network Working

Group, and I started another project at ISI called "Internet


In 1977 Steve Crocker, who was then at ISI, told me that Jon was

willing to join us, and that Jon will be a great addition to my

Internet Concepts project. Steve was right on both accounts.

Jon and I worked together from 1977 until 1993 when I left ISI.

According to ISI's management Jon worked for me for several years,

and I worked for him for several years. In reality we never worked

for each other (nor for ISI), we always worked together, to advance

the technology that we believed in. Over most of those 16 years we

had our offices together, and always worked with each other, even

when we worked on totally different projects.

Jon was always most pleasant to work with. He was most caring both

about the project, and about the individuals on the team. He was

always full of great intentions and humor. Jon was always ready for

mischiefs, one way or another. He was always game to hack something.

When I worked on the MOSIS project, in 1980, users submitted their

VLSI designs to us by e-mail. For several defense contractors,

getting access to the ARPAnet was too complex. We suggested that

they would use a commercial e-mail service, like TELEmail, instead.

Then we had the problem of getting all the e-mail systems to

interoperate, since none of them was willing to interoperate with the

others. Jon and I solved this problem during one long night of

hacking. This hack later became the mail-tunnel that provided the

service known as "InterMail", for passing e-mail between various

non-cooperating systems, including systems like MCImail and IEEE's


I'm sure that Jon was so enthusiastic to work with me on ...